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Episode 80 · 2021-05-21 · 35:01 · Original in Finnish

Private Capital Funds | Kimmo Eloranta | Negotiator 80

Originally published as “Yksityiset pääomarahastot | Kimmo Eloranta | Neuvottelija 80”

Kimmo Eloranta raises capital for unlisted funds from professional investors, and in this episode he explains how the money actually moves: an investor commits to a fund, the fund calls the capital only when an investment is made, the portfolio company builds through add-on acquisitions, and the proceeds of an exit return through the fund to the investor. He corrects a common misconception — the unlisted market is not mainly early-stage crowdfunding but overwhelmingly large, cash-flow-positive companies, some of them bigger than listed ones. The heart of the argument is why the asset class has outgrown the public market: majority ownership gives a single strategic direction, the funds hold decades of crisis playbooks, and their operational teams roll one playbook across a whole portfolio. Miettinen presses on the flip side — the information advantage over regulated listed companies, and the fact that ordinary savers cannot get in, which he calls a fairness problem. Along the way: Bengt Holmström on whether the exchange's transparency costs more than it is worth, why pension funds' roughly 14 per cent return from this class benefits everyone, and Smartly's sale to Providence as an example of Finnish international scaling.

Guest: Kimmo Eloranta · Host: Sami Miettinen

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Key moments

  1. 00:00 — How money moves from fund to portfolio company
  2. 01:06 — The episode's subject and the guest
  3. 01:28 — Kimmo's path from Nokia into private capital
  4. 02:32 — Sami's experience of crowdfunding and angel investments
  5. 04:01 — The unlisted market is much more than that
  6. 04:46 — Venture funds and successes like Oura
  7. 05:23 — Exchange liquidity and the owner's lock-in
  8. 06:02 — Private equity and the size classes of funds
  9. 06:29 — Blackstone-scale giants in London
  10. 07:53 — Mid-market and a shared deal with Translink
  11. 08:24 — Helix Capital and a two-billion fundraising
  12. 09:10 — Buy and build as a method of value creation
  13. 09:45 — The pipe from investor to fund to portfolio company
  14. 10:20 — What a capital call actually is
  15. 11:13 — The unlisted market grows faster than the exchange
  16. 11:50 — Majority ownership allows a single direction
  17. 12:53 — Commitment and efficient allocation of capital
  18. 13:40 — Who the asset class actually suits
  19. 14:37 — The professionalisation of the industry since the 1980s
  20. 16:10 — From leverage to financing growth
  21. 16:45 — Pension companies' roughly 14 per cent return
  22. 17:43 — Hedge funds and activist investors compared
  23. 18:50 — Information advantage and the exchange's regulatory burden
  24. 20:01 — Bengt Holmström on the cost of exchange information
  25. 20:33 — Active value creation and the investment flat analogy
  26. 21:27 — Ville Valkonen's rental investing comparison
  27. 22:31 — Crisis playbooks and the Covid year
  28. 23:26 — Operational teams and portfolio synergies
  29. 24:14 — Lessons from the Nokia years on international growth
  30. 24:55 — Are there wealthy investors in Finland
  31. 26:07 — Finnish wealth in European comparison
  32. 28:20 — Wealth tied up in homes and property
  33. 29:02 — Why underweighting the United States rarely pays
  34. 30:31 — Private equity governance takes market share
  35. 31:03 — The key man clause and the decisive role of the team
  36. 31:44 — What else the unlisted field should cover
  37. 32:07 — Property and infrastructure as future financing targets
  38. 33:37 — Smartly, Providence and international scaling
  39. 34:01 — Growth companies and the circulation of capital
  40. 34:33 — Closing words and thanks

Summary

Kimmo Eloranta raises capital for unlisted funds from professional investors, and in this episode he explains how the money actually moves: an investor commits to a fund, the fund calls the capital only when an investment is made, the portfolio company builds through add-on acquisitions, and the proceeds of an exit return through the fund to the investor. He corrects a common misconception — the unlisted market is not mainly early-stage crowdfunding but overwhelmingly large, cash-flow-positive companies, some of them bigger than listed ones. The heart of the argument is why the asset class has outgrown the public market: majority ownership gives a single strategic direction, the funds hold decades of crisis playbooks, and their operational teams roll one playbook across a whole portfolio. Miettinen presses on the flip side — the information advantage over regulated listed companies, and the fact that ordinary savers cannot get in, which he calls a fairness problem. Along the way: Bengt Holmström on whether the exchange’s transparency costs more than it is worth, why pension funds’ roughly 14 per cent return from this class benefits everyone, and Smartly’s sale to Providence as an example of Finnish international scaling.

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The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: Yksityiset pääomarahastot | Kimmo Eloranta | Neuvottelija 80. A Finnish edition of this episode is published at www.neuvottelija.fi.

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Guests: Kimmo Eloranta

Topics: Investing & Markets Ownership, Capital & Tax

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Provenance: Finnish source: Owner page created on 2026-08-30 from a MacWhisper Finnish transcription (418 cues, entity pass applied from the archived raw). Chapter timecodes are the publisher's own YouTube chapter list, verified cue by cue against the transcript, and the titles are translated from it. Subtitles are Finnish only; no English cue track shipped.. English subtitles: publisher-provided English cues, imported and quality-checked. QA coverage 100% (transcript timecoded). Original episode: neuvottelija.fi. Imported 2026-08-30 · last reviewed 2026-08-30. Passages the source audio left genuinely ambiguous are marked [unclear] rather than guessed.