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title: "Meritocracy and Human Capital | Elias Rantapuska | Negotiator 107"
titleOriginal: "Meritokratia ja inhimillinen pääoma | Elias Rantapuska | Neuvottelija 107"
episodeNumber: "107"
guest: "Elias Rantapuska"
datePublished: 2021-11-14
duration: "36:08"
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# Meritocracy and Human Capital | Elias Rantapuska | Negotiator 107

English subtitles are not available on this page. This is an episode summary, not a curated transcript.

## Chapters

- [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=0s) The definition of meritocracy
- [01:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=89s) From the research track to consulting and back to a professorship
- [02:53](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=173s) Sociability as a dimension of negotiation
- [04:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=254s) Talent is much more than calculation speed
- [06:05](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=365s) Ten thousand hours and human capital
- [07:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=457s) A million euros is easy capital
- [09:41](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=581s) Why capitalism is needed as a matchmaker
- [11:08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=668s) What capital markets looked like before institutions
- [13:18](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=798s) A small home market limits how far talent grows
- [14:48](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=888s) The strategy for exceptional talent: pick a big sandbox
- [16:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=977s) A culture that pushes people down
- [17:43](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=1063s) What if the luck of the draw is worse
- [20:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=1207s) Visible meritocracies: the firm, the army, sport
- [22:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=1360s) The clan game and the coordinator's power
- [25:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=1506s) In an organisation the same work is called management
- [27:16](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=1636s) Concentration as a strength not everyone has
- [29:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=1741s) Is there still room for active strategies
- [30:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=1842s) Where the private investor's niche remains
- [32:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=1946s) The IPO boom and the winner's curse
- [34:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=2057s) MBA teaching, and finance as science and as art
- [35:52](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0&t=2152s) Closing words

## Summary

Elias Rantapuska, head of the department of finance at Aalto University, defines meritocracy as an order in which you rise through innate talent, hard work, or a combination of the two, and points out that it is historically young and, set against a hierarchy based on birth, a good system in principle. The episode's sharpest argument is his asymmetry between financial and human capital: a million-euro portfolio can be managed on ten hours of advice if you listen and stick to it, while turning an exceptionally gifted young athlete into a world-class one takes the ten thousand. Piketty's book, he says, has genuine arguments, and capitalism is needed to match those with innovation and leadership talent with those who have capital; the host, citing an American book, adds that Piketty and the champions of human capital are each only partly right. The conversation moves through Finland's small sandbox and invisible meritocracies to meta-work, which inside an organisation is called management, and ends on where a private investor's narrow niche still lies.

## Ten hours against ten thousand

The comparison is the episode. Give someone a million euros and ten hours on long horizons, low costs and diversification, and if they stick to it they will find it hard to lose the lot. A physically gifted teenager cannot be turned into a world-class footballer or javelin thrower by ten hours of instructions; that takes the ten thousand. Everything else in the conversation follows from that difference.

## Where Piketty stops

Rantapuska accepts that Piketty's book contains arguments that are easy to sign up to. His addition is functional: people with the talent to innovate and lead rarely have the capital, and a capital market exists to bring the two together — without it, many innovations would go unmade. The host's gloss, from an American book, is that the combination of the two capitals is what wins.

## The size of the sandbox

A talent born into a large home market can grow further before hitting a wall; in a small country the walls come sooner unless one leaves. Rantapuska's advice is to choose the sandbox — firm, country or job — with room to grow as far as ability and will allow, and he names a Finnish culture that pushes people towards the safe permanent job as a waste of human capital.

## Meta-work has a name

Work that consists of arranging other people's work — who takes the child to the party, who books next year's holiday — is invisible in most accounts of merit. Carried into an organisation, Rantapuska observes, it is simply called management. In a family it never grows beyond a small tribe.


## Watch

The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: [Meritokratia ja inhimillinen pääoma | Elias Rantapuska | Neuvottelija 107](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm3MdToAHI0).
A Finnish edition of this episode is published at [www.neuvottelija.fi](https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/127-meritokratia-ja-inhimillinen-paaoma-elias-rantapuska-neuvott).

## In depth

The Neuvottelija AI editions carry a long-form write-up of this episode:
[English](https://www.neuvottelija.com/ai/ep107-meritokratia-ja-inhimillinen-paaoma-elias-rantapuska/) · [suomeksi](https://www.neuvottelija.fi/economy/ep107-meritokratia-ja-inhimillinen-paaoma-elias-rantapuska/).

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Cite as: Sami Miettinen, Neuvottelija — Meritocracy and Human Capital | Elias Rantapuska | Negotiator 107, https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep107-meritokratia-ja-inhimillinen-paaoma-elias-rantapuska/, 2021-11-14. For quotes include episode 107 and timestamp.
