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title: "Helppy Remade Senior Services | Richard Nordström | Negotiator 102"
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# Helppy Remade Senior Services | Richard Nordström | Negotiator 102

English subtitles are not available on this page. This is an episode summary, not a curated transcript.

## Chapters

- [00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=0s) The threshold for asking for help, and 700 hours in the field
- [00:59](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=59s) An old colleague as guest: Richard Nordström
- [01:43](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=103s) Becoming a family carer at 34, mid-career at BCG
- [02:56](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=176s) Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and the London banking years
- [05:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=314s) Helppy's mission: the family carer is not left alone
- [06:31](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=391s) Silver economy: the world is ageing, Finland especially
- [07:49](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=469s) The family member has to integrate the services alone
- [09:09](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=549s) Scale: 300,000 people over 80, and 500,000 by 2030
- [10:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=601s) Memory Week and 200,000 people with memory disorders
- [11:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=686s) Pivoting mid-growth, and the arrival of covid
- [12:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=731s) The neighbourhood model and the Dutch Buurtzorg
- [12:47](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=767s) Shift to a platform model: the same helper on 95 per cent of visits
- [14:22](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=862s) Own helpers and the partner network
- [16:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=971s) When is the right moment to take VC money
- [17:40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=1060s) A threefold liquidation preference and the Star Wars meme
- [19:07](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=1147s) 700 hours in the field made the investor conversation easy
- [20:03](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=1203s) The round: Icebreaker, Elias Aalto and Johannes Schildt
- [22:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=1340s) Finland is good at B2B but not at B2C
- [24:23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=1463s) Nordic state-run healthcare and the market gap
- [24:59](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=1499s) After the household deduction, private beats the municipal fee
- [25:55](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=1555s) Going international: Finland leads in home care
- [29:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=1740s) Kanta, Apotti and Finland's platform advantage in health IT
- [30:09](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=1809s) A family portal and preparing from the age of 70
- [33:11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=1991s) The leap into entrepreneurship needed a catalyst
- [35:31](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=2131s) 87 per cent of middle-aged people think about a parent at work
- [36:04](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE&t=2164s) Closing words: talk to your family

## Summary

Richard Nordström built a career at Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and BCG until his mother fell ill and, at thirty-four, he found himself organising an elderly parent's daily life alongside his job. Helppy grew out of that, with the mission that the family carer is not left alone. The core of the episode is a diagnosis of what is broken in Finnish home care: carers rotate so that nobody knows who is visiting, the family member has to integrate five separate services and pay five separate invoices, and reporting is still done in a paper notebook. Nordström explains how a neighbourhood model based on the Dutch Buurtzorg approach was profitable within three months without outside funding, and why it gave way to a platform-like hybrid in which the same helper makes 95 per cent of visits. The funding round, which brought in Icebreaker.vc, Wolt's Elias Aalto and Kry's Johannes Schildt, was easy, he says, because he had spent 700 hours in the field himself in the first year. He also argues that after the household tax deduction private help costs less than the municipal client fee, and that Finland is in fact a leader in home care.

## The customer nobody designed for

Finnish home care is organised around the person receiving it. What Nordström found, doing it himself as his mother's carer and legal guardian, is that the load lands on the family member who has to assemble five providers, five customer-service desks and five invoices into something resembling a life — and that person is not a customer of anything, which is why nobody has designed for them. Older people themselves rarely ask for help: those born before the war and in the 1940s expect to manage alone.

## Rotation destroys the product

If a different carer arrives each time, the service delivers a task rather than a relationship, and the relationship was the part with value in it. Helppy began with neighbourhood teams on the Dutch Buurtzorg pattern, profitable within three months, and then rebuilt itself as a hybrid of local matching and a conventional employer so that the same helper makes 95 per cent of visits. The switch landed just before covid, and because helpers go from their own homes straight to the customer instead of gathering to collect paper lists, exposure stayed low.

## Seven hundred hours

The founder worked the shifts and knew the first hundred customers by name. Whatever one concludes about the company, that is a different epistemic position from the one most sector critiques are written from, and he credits it, rather than his banking CV, for a round that came together quickly: Icebreaker.vc plus two unicorn founders as angels. Asked whether the terms included a threefold liquidation preference, he does not say.

## Finland as the benchmark

The episode's least expected claim is that Finland is already among the most developed countries in elderly care — second in Europe on social-care spending after the Netherlands, an early privatiser of home care — and that the export case is a better version of the Finnish model sold as a top-up on whatever basic care a municipality or insurer pays for. Municipal help is thin, at most three or four fifteen-minute visits a day in Helsinki, and by his account private help is cheaper after the household tax deduction.

## Watch

The recording lives on the Neuvottelija channel: [Helppy uudisti senioripalvelut | Richard Nordström | Neuvottelija 102](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZYWN1DbbE).
A Finnish edition of this episode is published at [www.neuvottelija.fi](https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/118-helppy-uudisti-senioripalvelut-richard-nordstrom-neuvottelij).

## In depth

The Neuvottelija AI editions carry a long-form write-up of this episode:
[English](https://www.neuvottelija.com/ai/ep102-helppy-uudisti-senioripalvelut-richard-nordstrom/) · [suomeksi](https://www.neuvottelija.fi/economy/ep102-helppy-uudisti-senioripalvelut-richard-nordstrom/).

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Cite as: Sami Miettinen, Neuvottelija — Helppy Remade Senior Services | Richard Nordström | Negotiator 102, https://www.neuvottelija.com/podcast/episodes/ep102-helppy-uudisti-senioripalvelut-richard-nordstrom/, 2021-10-12. For quotes include episode 102 and timestamp.