{"title": "Envy day, marginal rates and the YEL trap | Ivan Puopolo | Negotiator 220", "titleOriginal": "Kateuspäivä verot YEL | Ivan Puopolo | Neuvottelija 220", "episodeNumber": "220", "guest": "Ivan Puopolo", "publishedAt": "2023-11-08", "duration": "31:19", "durationIso": "PT31M19S", "youtube": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJyh1OOUEmg", "fiCanonical": "https://www.neuvottelija.fi/fi/episodes/608-kateuspaiva-verot-yel-ivan-puopolo-neuvottelija-220", "originalLanguage": "fi", "format": "full", "topics": ["ownership_capital_tax", "finnish_economy_policy"], "description": "Journalist and podcast host Ivan Puopolo joins Sami Miettinen just after Finland's annual publication of individual tax records — the day the press calls envy day. The episode is strongly opinionated and marked as such. Its most usable section is the breakdown of YEL, the self-employed pension: why a pay-as-you-go scheme carries demographic risk, and what the detail in the confirmed-income review procedure is that the episode calls a trap. 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